An update to EasyEDA’s pricing plans
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wuqimei 3 months ago
We are writing to let you know about an update that we are going to start EasyEDA‘s pricing plans. The free plan will be retained to use as normal. We’re making the changes because over the last 10 years, as a nonprofit tool, we’ve insisted to build EasyEDA to a powerful PCB design tool and continuously improved the user experience. And we want to do something more. To make our users having a high speed and very smoothly experience with EasyEDA. We need a more powerful team so more excellent engineers is joining in us. But only with your help, we can make this come true earlier. We are looking for suggestions on pricing. Which features you consider it should be added to the pay plan? Or which features need an improvement so it can be considered as fee-based? We’d love to have your expected pricing plan for our reference.
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andyfierman 3 months ago
To start the discussion, here are some ideas for things that could be charged for without impacting on the existing free services and features that EasyEDA already offers: 1. Schematic Design Reviews (formal design review of a customer's EasyEDA Schematic design to a customer's Design Requirements Specification); 2. Schematic Design Services (circuit design, schematic, BoM creation and Circuit Description to a customer's Design Requirements Specification); 3. PCB Design Reviews (formal design review of a customer's EasyEDA PCB layout to a customer's Design Requirements Specification); 4. PCB Design Services (PCB design and layout to a customer's Design Requirements Specification from an existing EasyEDA Schematic supplied by the customer or EasyEDA Schematic Design Services); 5. Custom simulation model building services (where models for devices or functional blocks are not available);  6. Access to advanced simulation models (for example, linearised models for switch mode supply design); 7. Design Simulation Services (simulating a design leading to the creation of a Schematic or from an existing EasyEDA Schematic supplied by the customer or EasyEDA Schematic Design Services; 8. Custom Schematic Symbol creation; 9. Custom PCB Footprint creation.
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MikeDB 3 months ago
I think some ways to charge which aren't service based like Andy's suggestions and also seem fair to me are : a)  Generation of all the data (Export Pick & Place, etc) for getting PCBs loaded as this is a new feature to EasyEDA and the few people who've done it so far can count as beta testing. b) Leave the existing auto-router as is - it's rubbish anyway - and charge for developing a new one that actually works. c) Produce an encrypted Gerber for JLCPCB use only.    If you want unencrypted ones to take elsewhere this is chargeable. d) Automatic updating of net names when I change a component identifier.  This isn't an issue for hobbyists but I can't give designs to my customers with a U1, U2, U4 & U5 but with U3 missing.  Currently renumbering the ICs and nets takes a huge amount of manual effort I'd happily pay for being done automatically. e) Create a way of placing modules on a design that actually works - both on schematic and PCB.  But if paying for this, JLCPCB must not add their random $8 surcharge. f) And finally a possibly controversial one - charge for the software to produce 4 layers or more.  I don't think many hobbyists produce 4 layer or more boards, though maybe I'm wrong.
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MikeDB 3 months ago
I think the other thing to consider is that EasyEDA is currently placed as an easier entry point than the more advanced KiCad.  If you start both charging and adding features you'll become as complex as KiCad and everybody may as well then switch to KiCad which is better proven and debugged.   Might it be better to just stay as you are and just fix the bugs ?  There must be several years worth outstanding already which need fixing long before considering adding new features.
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MiniMax 3 months ago
Please do not cripple existing features on the free version. Even I agree with Mike that most hobbyists would not produce 4 layers or more boards, this limitation would surely make me think of moving to KiCad or others. Also limitations of area or max number of pads are terrible for me. I like the idea that the free version is tighter bundled to JLCPCB and a payed version can produce gerber files for other manufacturers.
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JFK422 3 months ago
Some of my ideas include: ### Advanced BOM-Tool Advancing the BOM-Tool. Its already vaguely connected with LCSC but needs to become way more solid. Would bring a lot more customes in if you could just create a solid BOM with LCSC and in the end make a "one click order" where you can order you PCB's together with the components. Paid version could include making and or exporting BOM's for other sellers too. ### Single Person Private Projects Its something similar to what github was doing until a while ago. Only one person can work on a non public project. It encourages more open source work and those who will likely pay for collaboration on private projects will mostly be the ones who plan on selling the PCB's of their project anyway. ### Better Component Naming Essentially what @MikeDB said under point d.
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cjohnson 3 months ago
**Schematic Customer Logo:** Paid customers can set a company logo, so that when new schematics are created the logo is automatically used instead of the EasyEDA logo **Automatic Page Numbering:** When creating schematics that are in the high page count, the page numbers should be automatically incremented, this should be in all versions **In-House Part Number:** Paid customers can set a field that is automatically included in the BOM that includes their in-house part numbers. Right now we have to manually enter it in each new part, check the "include in BOM." This part number will also show up in the pick and place files (VERY important). Right now we have to cross reference all parts in our pick and place file to shorten the amount of time it takes to setup our machines. **Private Parts:** Parts created with paid user accounts as "private" do not show up in the user-contributed part search.
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cjohnson 3 months ago
@MikeDB one issue with limiting the download of Gerbers, is it goes against a statement on the FAQ of the pricing plans page. Not sure if they are comfortable going against that or not. [https://easyeda.com/page/pricing](https://easyeda.com/page/pricing)
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JonGordon 2 months ago
If you are going to charge for this software, I must have the ability to default to local storage, instead of everything being stored on your servers. (Yes I know you can save locally... I mean you should be able to set it to default to local storage without any files ever being transferred to them.
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medvídek Krupička 2 months ago
I would pay for using a good fully configurable topological autorouter.
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edcasati 2 months ago
a) Add priority access to autorouter with paid membership. It's frustrating to have it time out with busy message. b) Local storage benefit should be paid. c) Stand-alone / offline version? (Tornado killed Internet locally for days)
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modlfo 2 months ago
+ Plus one for local storing when using the desktop app. I would like to always have a local copy of my projects. + Add more privacy options (private parts, footprints etc)
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Marc Labranche 2 months ago
I love easy EDA, a constant concern is how long this will be available for. I'd pay a reasonable subscription fee just to give this thing a better chance of sticking around. Bonus if it also makes for way more convenient local storage and possibly even in a format that is compatible with some other tool that has some longevity to it. that would remove all my concerns with using this tool long term. Also, better revision control would be nice. I'd love to just tag versions as i'm going along and be able to go back and forth, branch versions whatnot.
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marcineasyeda 2 months ago
In my opinion it should be something like **1-2**$ per month .... If you put more than that **people will go to KiCAD or something else.**
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peut 2 months ago
I would happily pay a few dollars a month just to support further development, e.g. an even better auotrouter. Professional services should of course be charged for this could be an opportunity for you to consider. I defintely disagree going the way of Easy-Eda only on JLCPCB only file formats.
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tiger54 2 months ago
I begun to use EasyEda some months ago (years?). After I saw how cheap it is to build a PCB. But I am on the free plan, and will stay there, since I just use easyeda for some simple personal projects (maybe 1 project every 2 years). So pay each month if I use Easy Eda only 5-6 days every year would not be an option to me. I know that a plan is always a nice feature for you, since you get the money without ask them always. But maybe you can add some options like "make gerber downloadable" for a single project asking something to enable this feature for a project. So, if I create a project (maybe next year) and want download the gerber, I can pay maybe 1$ and will be able to download it. I like EasyEda because it is simple to use (like Arduino on the microprocessor world). I am sure that JLCPCB and LCSC are getting a lot of requests just thanks to EasyEda. **I will continue to use the free version, until you will offer it. And I will continue to order on JLCPCB and LCSC to support you.**
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egzola 1 month ago
$2 per month, but  with a refund if I order some PCBs with you.  Or it gives a discount on PCB order. Both options is ok for me... whatever...
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Andrew Young 1 month ago
1. I second **Single Person Private Projects** as suggested by @JFK422 2. As a hobbyist who designs about one PCB a month, I would be happy to pay $1-2 per month for extra features or private projects 3. That said, I second **PCB order discounts** as suggested by @egzola.  For example, a $2 pay tier could include a $2 coupon each month that you could use at JLC or LCSC.  That would encourage users to order through JLC, and to order more often. I'm not sure if this is worthwhile for a business tier, but it makes a lot of sense for a hobbyist. > c) Produce an encrypted Gerber for JLCPCB use only.    If you want unencrypted ones to take elsewhere this is chargeable. Please do not do this.
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dlswenson 1 month ago
Keep it free and people will keep using it and buying PCBs and parts.
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mtiutiu 1 month ago
I also agree with @dlswenson. More than that if EasyEDA will switch to using closed source/proprietary format when exporting schematic/pcb designs or when doing gerber stuff so that I get locked into this system then for sure I will abandon this project in favor of other free tools. Not trying to be harsh or rude here and I do understand that development needs money and time to create great products (like EasyEDA has become so far) but for a simple hobbyist like me..well I like it free and simple. I really like this ecosystem where you can find everything in one place - this is very powerful!. Not to mention that JLCPCB & LCSC combination and prices is just - wow!. This is one of the main reasons also I'm using and staying with your solution. And yes, I am a KiCAD fan also and KiCAD doesn't have this part. So I switched from KiCAD for now only for this powerful ecosystem. Keep up the great work! You rock so far.
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chris213 4 weeks ago
As far as I see it this software is just a service you give to the customers of JLCPCB and LCSC. If you start charging for this software people will eventually move away from both. To be honest this software is inferior is quite a lot of ways and I personally only use it for small quick prototypes that I already know I want to get assembled quickly. KiCAD is always installed on my pc so if you do it wrong people will leave. Not only EasyEDA but also JLCPCB and LCSC. At least that is my point of view.
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FrankCA 4 weeks ago
+1 to chris213.  EasyEDA is not a product, it is a service. It should always remain as a free software service to bring customers to LCSC and JLCPCB - do not deviate from that goal. Being free you can excuse some of the poorly executed and missing features as you have been doing anyway. Making EasyEDA paid-for will drastically increase the demands from users for new and improved features - failure to deliver will drive them away from all your revenue-generating channels. If you need extra income to pay for EasyEDA development, marginally increase the price of components and/or pcbs. The per-unit increases should be small enough to be tolerated by most users.
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eskelsen 3 weeks ago
EasyEDA's great appeal to me is its component library, both user-created components and the LCSC integrated library. This brings me tremendous productivity and discourages me from using other software again. Using the LCSC component library is already halfway to buying components at LCSC instead of elsewhere. After all, I already have the product code, I already know the price and availability. Sometimes I even change the component to use one that LCSC has. More recently I started to force the use of components that JLCPCB has available for SMT. I believe that is the value of software for the company. You have a unique product, no competitor of yours has anything similar. It may be worth the group pumping some money into software development.
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Derrihj 2 weeks ago
Please make it an offline software with a .exe file before pricing it just like eagle and the others and then we just buy it as an offline software instead of using it online.
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andyfierman 2 weeks ago
@Derrihj, Do you mean so that to use EasyEDA online is free but you have to buy pay for the offline desktop client?
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kotoulas 2 weeks ago
Easyeda is a great tool for the amateur. It will be very unfortunate if we have to pay to use it. Most people will have no reason to use it and will go to other programs. I design my own committees almost every month. My point is that it should be released and simply. Τhat money and fishing  is taken from the materials and boards.
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ban.relayer 2 weeks ago
I'm use EasyEDA sometime for my hobby. It's ok, but only for hobby and free.Because: 1\. You havent really offline version\. I can't work if I haven't internet\. At the same time\, your server mainly deals only with the fact that it stores project files\. My local drive can handle this no worse than your server\. 2\. Software isn't stable\. Each next version add some features and bugs\. And I can't back to previous version\. For hobby this is not very important\, but for business usage this isn't acceptable\!\!\! 3\. Autorouter is poor\. Really poor
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chomik 1 week ago
Hi. 1\. You can limit free/paid baised on the board size 2\. You can leave the tool free but add some extra cents per pcb when the pcb is ordered\, so the tool get's supported that way 3\. You can charge per use of this tool \(for example there is a free counter of 50 hours per month\, over that\, the access to the tool is limited\.
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tobalt 1 week ago
easyeda is unique among the eda tools due to its browser based runtime, the close embedding with community and with lcsc/jlcpcb. if you go into regular pricing plans like other eda tools, you become more like other tools and you give up some of the uniqueness. and to be honest to EDA tool itself is not yet up to the level of maturity that you see in other tools. if you introduce plans a big portion of users will migrate to kicad and realise that parts can also come cheaply from digikey and mouser and that pcbs can also come cheaply from pcbgogo. No! instead of these regular pricing plans you should take the unique features of easyeda to your advantage and not try to become like the 5th iteration of \
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Henrik Larsen 1 week ago
May I suggest to look at what separate professional users from hobbyists. I'm work both as an professional and as a hobbyist, and can start with my inputs: **Professionals****do****need**: * Autorouter that works * Support that works, ie. immediate support. Optionally remote desktop support on the current problem (extra cost/ticket). * Controlled updates to the software. Possible to do rollback to previous versions is a must. * High quality (verified) library - component and footprint. * Possibility to create new schematic components and footprints, and have them verified. * Offline option. * Autorouting (shuffling) as you pull tracks or footprints. Really need this. * Better schematic to PCB update control (i.e. auto remove obsolete tracks) **Hobbyists****dont****need** \- to work and create nice PCB's\. * Immediate support - forum is fine. * Control over software versions. * Autorouter - can be limited or not available. * Offline option. * Shuffling. * advanced PCB update. These differences are more in the surrounding eco system of the software, and not in the software in itself.
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boyanov 1 week ago
My suggestion: keep the pricing **simple**: * **free** and fully functional for all my open source projects * for private projects - **paid** membership. (maybe 1 free private project) This is a business model that has been tested over by others the years and apparently works.
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zhongwangwang007 1 week ago
i would treat easyeda as **electronics pcb “github”**, thus similarly it shoul be free for all public project. the paid membership for private project.
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nuge61 1 week ago
I've read through the various suggestions and most are IMHO too complex and arbitrary, with an occasional dash of self-interest.  It's not about who uses what features, it's about making sure the project survives and develops.  Having more power that more people can use mean more people will use it and not stray. Hobbyists still want to use very advanced features and can design very complex circuits and large boards.  There's no reason to limit their features or force them to a high plan just because they need some capability. The solution is simple - just treat it like a prepaid mobile or internet plan. I make a payment to use the system, usage deducts from the payment, I topup as necessary.  That way I can pay $50 up front and use it whenever I like until that $50 is gone.  As features are added they are included for all, no restrictions required.  Bigger payments get increasingly more 'value', maybe with an 'unlimited/monthly' plan for heavy users/groups. Support incidents and type included increase with your spend and you can buy more regardless of your level.  Unused support incident 'rolls over' to the next payment. My initial thoughts are when a pcb is exported for manufacture it is locked then billed based on  eg. the number of primitives in the PCB design - pads, nets etc.  You can subsequently unlock it, this becomes a revision that's kept forever and the edit/export/lock/bill cycle restarts - based on the difference in the design.  You have endless use and access, you pay for what you produce, you can always go back to a prior revision and export again at no further cost.  A small revision doesn't cost the earth as it's only a difference charge. If you want to have a Free plan to allow trial use etc then when the design is ready to export either limit the design and/or tell them how much it'll cost to export their (bigger) design. Yes it can be scammed - one could heavily revise an existing design but keep a similar size.  However revisions are kept forever, they'd get found out and banned.  For the sake of a few dollars?? Every design should be private that you can the share.  Even a small design has copyright implications that are better left unexplored and a brilliant idea still belongs to it's creator.
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saintpine 1 week ago
I can understand that no one can survive giving free services. But I think it's thanks to EasyEDA being free that JLCPCB is making good business. I don't like monthly fees, because I already pay monthly Autocad LT, Eagle, both of which I use occasionally. I think a good solution could be as someone suggested, a fee to convert to a format outside of easyEDA, a low priced fee to convert for JLCPCB. and free to print (for home made PCB). JLCPCB's prices are so good that there is no competition, I've given up making me own pcb's (CNC and Fotoresist methods), it's simply easier to wait for JLCPCB to deliver (average 10 - 15 days to my country Italy).
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ChLachapelle 13 hours ago
The strength and _differentiator_ of the EasyEDA is to be able to order PCBs with SMT assembly directly through the EayEDA software, otherwise KiCad already has the upper hand in terms of free software. I believe that in this regard, the improvement that EasyEda really needs relates to the library search function for "JLCPCB Assembled" components. Current shortfalls include the ability to search by LCSC Part Number (does not always work), having more key components parameters visible through the search window (e.g. resistor power rating) etc. A quick fix could be to have a JLCPCB Assembled search criteria added to the LCSC Smart Filtering within the component search platform combined with consistent ability to search by LCSC part number within the EasyEDA library search.
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dillon 1 hour ago
There is a problem, More than 60% users design with EasyEDA, no any orders from LCSC and JLCPCB.  We are sure will keep the tool be free , Just hope some one can suport the tool in some ways.
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