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tiger54 5 years ago

Hi, I am trying to find out how to design 2 boards on the same PCB. The most topics are outdated (or with invalid links, like [https://easyeda.com/Doc/Tutorial/PCBOrderFAQ#Different-Design-in-Panel)](https://easyeda.com/Doc/Tutorial/PCBOrderFAQ#Different-Design-in-Panel) I designed something and want to stack 2 boards, so instead of design a 8cm x 4cm board, I designed 2 boards with a size 4cm x 4cm. ![easyeda.jpg](//image.easyeda.com/pullimage/hAB5ttrRA4Ks5nLmtsxZQNC0dL0ptZkBO0vtBAcy.jpeg) Solution 1: Can I panelize a 2 x 1 board and insert 2 different designs on it? Or is this still not possible? Solution 2: Can I draw 2 outlines with the same size? Solution 3: Can I draw an outline line inside my PCB and this will be cut? Solution 4: V-Cut, but still can't find how to draw this cut with the current EasyEDA version. Solution 5: There is still no solution, I have to select 2 different designs on the order and pay more.

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cjohnson 5 years ago

What I would do with this design, is draw in the extra outlines you want (2x2, 2x3, etc), then when you go to checkout select this option: ![image.png](//image.easyeda.com/pullimage/Ef0fRTuICJbfE0jbIxBlvA4Hz3RXYws7oehLs27Z.png) I've never used this, but if they have any questions they will contact you.

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tiger54 5 years ago

Thank you CJohnson, At beginning I was thinking about it, but the price is higher. If you have for example a board (say 2x2 cm) and want use a 4x4cm space, you can place this board 4 times (remember that the price for a 10x10cm is 2$). If you want order this board, the cost go from 2$ to 23.80$! --> 23.80$ for a 4x4cm cutted board is really too much and can't understand why this increase so much. So this is not really an option, or is it? I mean, if it is not possible to do it with the same cost, I will cut them myself. It isn't a problem for me to cut it with a saw if it is not possible to produce and cut automatically. Just was thinking that this "cut-option" was a feature and not an option to buy.

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egaistek 5 years ago

You can design it as one board and then instead of outlining each sub-board just use one outline and cutouts between sub-boards. To make a cutout place "Solid Region" and set its type to "NPTH". Cutout width of 0.8-1mm is enough to route in one pass by jlcpcb. Also you may leave more tabs connecting sub-boards together so it would be more rigid while handling. Tabs are easy to brake/cut even without v-cut. ![image.png](//image.easyeda.com/pullimage/J1h8GYozThgJ3zUkAa68ZQjUCmq3vMTYNYr6uS7T.png) ![image.png](//image.easyeda.com/pullimage/joCLyINPL8e6o3xtFOfp7cflbr7eAQVwwtLI7vnC.png)

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cjohnson 5 years ago

@tiger54 well that's kind of the cost of the design. $23 is really not that expensive for PCB proto boards. I've gotten quotes for upwards of $150-200 for similar sized PCB boards. What you could do is just layout two boards, each smaller than 10x10, and add them both to your cart separately. This would be $4 plus shipping.

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MikeDB 5 years ago

I do the same as egastek and it works fine, though I have a few more bridges between the sub-boards to keep them more rigid.

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tiger54 5 years ago

Thank you for the help. To reduce even more the size, I designed 3 small pieces and they have a 4x4cm size, I used the NPTH to divide them. Now I got this email: > Hello, > > Many thanks for your order, but sorry to bother you to confirm **a issues.** > > In your file,there are 3 designs ,but you only select one .The price for 3 > designs is much higher. > Could you please pay for that difference 14.5$ ? > > Looking forward to your early reply. > Thanks! So it seems that it doesn't work.

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egaistek 5 years ago

That is sad. So a hand cut is last resort I guess, just use silk screen lines to separate boards.

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UserSupport 5 years ago

please wait for v6.1, this release will support this panelize option

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MikeDB 5 years ago

@egaistek Oh that's bad. My last order was two different 100mm * 100mm PCBs that divided down to eight different bits and they did it without problem. It was all for the same project so on the same schematic but it these were broken out to make stacked boards due to a width limitation.

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tiger54 5 years ago

@MikeDB @egaistek My board was 90mm * 80mm divided into 3, but I made only 1-2mm large bridges between the boards. Maybe this is a cut for EasyEDA. I can understand that if you want 3 different boards for 3 different projects, you have to pay more (2$ is really a fantastic price). But if you have a single project and just want try to stack the boards instead of 1 big board, this would be a nice feature.

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MikeDB 5 years ago

Problem I have got is my latest board is built and tested as one board, with loads of wire links over the bridges. Then the board is snapped and one piece rotated through 90 degrees for front panel mounting. I hope they are applying this new rule sensibly. I don't mind paying more that $2 but I definitely need the PCB to come back in one piece.

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AKSHAY_GHORPADE 5 years ago

@egaistek but there is problem regarding components numbers and prefix naming.In your designU1 and U2 are printed but both are same design. Is there another method to eliminate this problem?

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andyfierman 5 years ago

If you want a panel with N copies of the same PCB design then please read the Panelize option in the Tutorial before you order the PCB. Basically just place one copy of the pcb on an area and add the V-cut lines for the other panels.

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