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giorgiotosti 7 years ago
I have used IC components from EasyEda library for example L7812. The system does not work at all with such IC component, in simulation of a signal for a rectifier circuit. What can be the cause considering that I have trued with different input signal and with sifferent versions of the same components all available from the EasyEda library. I have tried with an external supply source (f.i. RS) but the system is not sensitive to the part numper code . Where I am wrong, else there is a bug in the system? Thanks for reply
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andyfierman 7 years ago
The L7812 has no simulation model. Please see: https://easyeda.com/forum/topic/How_to_find_simulatable_parts_in_EasyEDA-1YgasK2kC
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giorgiotosti 7 years ago
@andyfierman I have followed what you suggested but the list of all the spice models (.model) and spice subcircuits (.subckt) currently available as expected in the site "https://easyeda.com/forum/topic/How_to_find_simulatable_parts_in_EasyEDA-1YgasK2kC" is missing! What I can see is a list of void part numbers and that's all. May be there is something more to do, to get a visible displayed sheet? Thanks again Thanks
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giorgiotosti 7 years ago
In the last message what is missing is the visibility of site: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KM28xzXwgQeUUj3zRMlth9BN-vs6Q98KBk1FHXmf58U/pubhtml as referred by the forum Sorry
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andyfierman 7 years ago
I can see the list OK. Are you booked from seeing sites from Google Drive? Can you see the EasyEDA Simulation eBook at the link given in the https://easyeda.com/forum/topic/How_to_find_simulatable_parts_in_EasyEDA-1YgasK2kC page?
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giorgiotosti 7 years ago
In the last message what is missing is the visibility of site: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KM28xzXwgQeUUj3zRMlth9BN-vs6Q98KBk1FHXmf58U/pubhtml as referred by the forum Sorry@andyfierman °°°°°°°°°°°°°° Sorry for delayed answer. Yes I see the simulation book
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andyfierman 7 years ago
I will try to post it as a PDF in the next week or so.
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giorgiotosti 7 years ago
I shall wait with interest Thanks
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andyfierman 7 years ago
`What I can see is a list of void part numbers and that's all. May be there is something more to do, to get a visible displayed sheet?` Oh! There appears to be a problem with using Firefox to view the web page published by Google Drive. It's OK if you view it in Chrome but in Firefox, all the text in the list is the same colour as the background so is invisible. If you do a **Select All** on the page then the text is made visible. If you cannot use Chrome see this Project: https://easyeda.com/andyfierman/EasyEDA_spice_models_list-afbbd8ef7c1b4cd6a51f858171969710
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giorgiotosti 7 years ago
OK I had found the same beforehand. I suspected that there was some mismatch Anyway thank you for conferming that Now my ask is: all the devices in that list are active and working? It looks not so to me
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andyfierman 7 years ago
Can you tell me which parts are not working for you?
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giorgiotosti 7 years ago
OK I had found the same beforehand. I suspected that there was some mismatch Anyway thank you for conferming that Now my ask is: all the devices in that list are active and working? It looks not so to me
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giorgiotosti 7 years ago
I don't find the symbol of Ammeter and Voltmeter in EasyEDA lib. I wonder: there are many examples using them in EasyEDA Simulation eBook but: where thwy are for canvas? Thanks
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andyfierman 7 years ago
Schematic symbols with spice simulation models attached to them can now be found using the: More Libraries... button (or SHIFT+F) and looking under: `System Components > Spice Simulation` Voltmeter and Ammeter are now under the `Spice Miscellaneous` tag.
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giorgiotosti 7 years ago
Super! Now when I find in EasyEDA Simulation eBook: "All signal source parameters can be edited directly inline ......or in the right hand Properties panel (Click on the far right hand vertical blue strip to view)" I try to apply the tip but unfortunately I get nothing because I do not find the blue strip at the far right hand (of what? I supposed page of window). There is a blue strip at the right hand of the **canvas** but it causes only the shut down of the Properties curtain. As a matter of fact it results impossible to write down the Parameters in Properties--> Part Attributes (only in the parameter label it is) I have tried either with Mozilla or Chrome with the same yield. Solution or mistake in the Simulation Book? Thanks again
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andyfierman 7 years ago
It could be the eBook is not clear enough. Not all spice symbols have user editable parameters. Those that do, show the user editable parameters in the right hand properties panel. Example of these are the voltage and current sources: ![enter image description here][1] Crystal: ![enter image description here][2] Parameterized_5pin_Opamp: ![enter image description here][3] Controlled Sources (CCCS, CCVS, VCCS, VCVS): ![enter image description here][4] and some others including the voltage and current controlled switches and some of the transformers. Simple passives (R, L, C) can be edited either way but are probably best done inline directly in the schematic. Things like the B sources, you are best editing inline. You can edit them in the right hand panel but the text entry field is too small for anything but simple expressions: ![enter image description here][5] Many of the underlying .subckt defined in-house models (the ones that end in `EE`) have user editable parameters but they are not made available via the Properties Panel. You can edit these models by placing the relevant component in an empty schematic, copying the model from the netlist for that schematic and than pasting it into the schematic you want to work in and then change the name of the pasted in .subckt and the symbol name to a new, unique name. Finally, set the pasted in text to `Text type = spice`. For example if you pasted in a copy of the model for the `7812` (LM7812EE), and changed the .subckt name to `LM7805dot2EE` you could edit the netlist to make a 5.2V version of the 7805. (Beware the limits on the characters you can use for model names in EasyEDA: stick to 0-9, a-z and the underscore `_` character.) (In fact everything in the model is editable but we discourage users from editing anything other than those parameters we mark as user editable unless they really understand what they are doing.) There are examples of this in Section 13 of the eBook: https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/1OWZVVFRAe_2NW3WratpkA_SGuHa5AcRow5ZRfvcoVTU/pub#h.43ky6rz [1]: /editor/20170304/58ba071627900.png [2]: /editor/20170304/58ba079162b58.png [3]: /editor/20170304/58ba07f1edc37.png [4]: /editor/20170304/58ba09b101ff1.png [5]: /editor/20170304/58ba0a42d5fc9.png
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